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AL SHUGART ADDRESSING THE DATAQUEST DATA STORAGE CONFERENCE
JULY 27, 1993 IN SANTA CLARA, CALIF.
I've got two pieces of good news for you. The first piece
of good news is that I don't have any slides. The second piece of good
news is that I am not talking til five o'clock. (laughter)
I also have some bad news for those of you who sold Western Digital
short. They announced their numbers today and they had a horrible loss
which means their stock will go up of course. (laughter)
I looked at the title of what I was supposed to talk about. I saw the
title yesterday for the first time and I didn't understand it so I didn't
pay any attention to it. Hope you will accept that explanation. I had
to correct Tom Gardner. I listened to his presentation. He's a young
guy. He doesn't really understand all the industry yet. If you're going
to record with a bent nail, it has to be rusty, and don't forget that.
(laughter)
I thought I would talk about the good ole days cause I guess I'm the
sort of historian of the industry. I get credit for everything that
has been done. It's really neat, cause I never done any of them. I'm
relatively good at being in the right place at the right time. I'm relatively
good at judging people and that's all part of being lucky and I'm very,
very lucky.
When I was in the IBM Company and I was there for—as Phil (Devin—Dataquest
Mass Storage Analyst) said—I guess 18 years or so, those were
the good ole days. What were the criteria (back then). Well there was
minimal competition. Actually in the early days there wasn't any competition.
That was what was neat. And high gross margins, I mean really high gross
margins. I remember we had one of our disk pack-—our early disk
pack drives—the product cost was $1,500. We sold for it for $26,500.
How'd you like that. And that was without a disk pack. (laughter)
There was relatively full employment for all the type of people who
are gathered here. You could always get a job. And there was lots of
time for product development. Product development cycles of four or
five years were not unusual at all, which was really kinda neat. It
gave you lots of time to do lots of things, fool around.
I got credit for everything as I said. I got credit for inventing the
floppy disk drive. I almost did. I almost invented the floppy, but the
guy I showed the idea to—I didn't know it was a floppy when I
show it to him. His name was Ed Knapp (spelling?) Some of you old timers
from IBM might remember Ed. He was a packaging mechanical engineer doing
the packaging on a disk drive product that I had and he had finished
his assignment and was looking for something else to do and I had a
big strip of magnetic tape behind my desk and I was talking with him
one day and I cut a big circle and I said to him "why don't we
use this flexible magnetic tape material and rotate it and we'll have
a disk” He didn't like the idea so he didn't do it.
And I dropped the idea. I didn't know if it was any good or not. And
sure enough, the floppy disk was eventually done several years later
but not by Ed Knapp. And I didn't do it. The guy that invented the floppy
disk drive was actually Dave Noble from IBM. He was the real inventor.
He was the program manager. There were two engineers, Herb Thompson
and Ralph Flores, who worked for him that really did all the work and
made a breakthrough in floppy diskette. They put the permanent envelope
around the outside that had the dust collector and so forth and without
that I don't think the floppy disk drive would ever have been born.
They were three guys, but I got all the credit.
And I got the credit for working on the first RAMAC disk drive. That's
not true I did not work on it. I worked on the CPU (central processor
unit). All my experience at IBM in the early days was working on computers.
All my patent applications at the IBM Company were related to computer
logic design. One of the computers I worked on was the 1620. That number
means nothing to you, but it was the first scientific computer that
IBM ever put together, a small scientific computer. We did something
different on this computer. For the first time we did not have an arithmetic
unit at all, it was all table look up no adder or anything like that.
The name of the—the code name within IBM for that computer was
Cadet. And the acronym was for "Can't Add Doesn't Even Try"
(laughter)
I can't believe that after working on computers all my life that I'm
still not computer literate. I have two computers in my office behind
me. I get the stock market quotes and I get First-Call and I'm on E-mail,
but I have a lot of trouble. That's one of the big failings right now
with computers is that they are not really friendly. They are friendly
for a lot of people, but not friendly for enough people. And I don't
think the computer industry is going to make a lot of progress until
they are an awful lot more friendly than they are right now. They have
to get so friendly that I can operate them and I can't yet.
In the early days of RAMAC, I came to San Jose with IBM in 1955 to work
on the computer in RAMAC. This was the first application of disk storage.
Reynold Johnson was the lab manager for IBM at the time and he usually
gets the credit for the RAMAC. And Rey was a great guy, but he wasn't
the inventor. And Lou Stevens was the RAMAC program manager. And Lou
Stevens was a great guy, but he wasn't the inventor either.
The inventor was a guy named John Haanstra. John was the guy you might
call the project manager. And the fellow who worked for John, Bill Goddard,
got the basic patent on RAMAC, but you don't hear of John Haanstra or
Bill Goddard. In fact, John Haanstra probably influenced my professional
life more than any other individual. He was made president of IBM Product
Division but then he got put into the penalty box for doing something
wrong. I don't remember what he did but he got demoted. Two years later
he got promoted to president again and he did something wrong again
and got put back in the penalty box and he finally said "screw
it" and quit and he went to work for GE.
GE decided with John Haanstra they could be a big force in the computer
business. They started to make progress but a couple of years after
he joined GE, John, who was a pilot, got killed in a plane crash. GE
decided, on the basis of John Haanstra's early death, they were going
to get out of the computer business. Now, isn't that amazing power for
one guy can have. He was really a fine guy.
The inventors of modern day disk storage. I think the real credit has
to go to Jack Harker, Al Osterlund, Russ Brunner, and Ken Houghton.
(Spelling?) And these were the four IBM scientists, who while at the
IBM research center in 1958, published all the fundamental work on slider
bearings. You don't hear much about them, but these four people really
were the guys that did all the work. Jack Harker made the disk drive
business really go because he was the program manager of the 1311 and
2311 removable disk pack drive that Tom Gardner talked about.
Another guy who made disk storage really go was Ken Folger, an IBM market
planner. Without him the disk pack drive would have never surfaced and
I think that Ken Folger deserves share of billing with Jack Harker.
And Ken Houghton gets the credit for Winchester technology and deservedly
so, I think. But, the guys who actually invented Winchester technology
are Armond Miller at Data Disc and Don Johnson at IBM. These guys preceded
Ken but Ken put it all together and made it work. These guys were who
invented Winchester technology, in my book. I still get credit for Winchester
technology, too. Isn't that amazing. I wasn't even involved in it. (laughter)
IBM had a competing program in the mid-60s, competing with disk drives.
The Poughkeepsie IBM lab decided that disk drives were a lot of trouble
and there were too many of them and too many formats and too many interfaces
so the Poughkeepsie Development Laboratory invented the loop program.
Some of you old timers might remember the loop program. And this was
a storage device that had a loop of magnetic tape, with probably a circumference
of 5 inches or so and an inch or half-inch wide. And these loops of
tape were switch accessed pneumatically. And there were various read/write
stations they could go to. And depending on the size of the box containing
the various loops of tape you could have variable amounts of capacity.
Performance could be improved by having multiple stations.
So Poughkeepsie Labs proposed this loop program to put all the people
in San Jose out of business. That was an interesting turn of events.
It took us in San Jose to get IBM to kill the loop program and they
finally did. Bob Evans who is now with Hambrecht & Quist, I think
was the ringleader of the loop program, a good guy. Some of you might
know Bob. He was given credit for IBM System 360, which was announced
in 1964. It was the first big computer system that was compatible from
its smallest model to its largest model. And that architecture stuck
around ever since. Bob deserves the credit because he was the 360 system
manager, but Gene Amdahl is given credit publicly as being the inventor
of the System 360, because he has a big name and formed his own company.
The truth is neither of them invented the System 360. It was really
Fred Brooks, who was the architect of the 360 and the last time I heard
Fred was head of the computer science department at the University of
North Carolina. In fact, if it wasn't for Fred Brooks, a lot of us would
have trouble right now because I was unable to sell defective disk tracks
on disk drives to anybody in the IBM Company in the early days. I had
a discussion with Fred Brooks and we were talking about costs and I
acquainted him with the fact that perfect disks were costing us an awful
lot of money and that all we needed to do was to implement a defective
track procedure and we could save ourselves beaucoup money. And he said
let's do it. And we did it and we saved a lot of money and defective
tracks have become a way of life and permitted us to bring the cost
of storage down even further.
And IBM had a big optical storage program, too. Tom Gardner talked about
optical. The optical program in the early days was called the photo
digital system and it was a system of recording dots and no dots on
standard halide film with an electron beam and then developing the film,
fixing it and putting these strips of film—eight to twenty—in
a little box all automatically done by machines. And then storing the
box someplace. The boxes moved around the system pneumatically. It was
a trillion bit file and we were building two of them one for the atomic
energy commission and one for I Lawrence Radiation Labs in Livermore
(Calif.)
The photo digital project was a huge project. It was not my project.
In fact, I was on record as saying it would never work. Jack Keeler
who still is or just was president of IBM actually ran the photo digital
program. Before the two products were completely developed Jack called
me one day. I was running the disk drive programs in San Jose. He said
he had been given the opportunity to move to Armonk—if that's
an opportunity-—to become assistant manager—a big promotion
for him—but he felt so dedicated to the engineers on the photo
digital program that he wasn't going to do it unless I would take over
the photo digital program and let somebody else run the disk drives.
I was really flattered, particularly since I had already told everybody
on that program their program wouldn't work, but I went ahead and said
okay I would do it. Jack said he would never forget it and he never
did forget it. He sued me twice. (laughter). We had to close the program.
We delivered the two products as planned and Frank Kerry told me if
we could make the thing profitable on a production basis then we could
keep the thing (program) going. So we put a real press on selling some
more. We sold seven more and that wasn't anywhere near enough so we
had to fold the program. In the meantime, though, we had made commitments
on seven more systems, so we had to build seven more photo digital systems.
That was history of the photo digital program at the IBM Company.
I'm glad I'm the historian and not the predictor, because I don't know
what's going to happen. The cost of computing has come down so far that
we've opened markets that no one ever dreamed of before and I see more
of that happening, further driving down the cost of disk drives, as
unit volumes go up. I think that obviously data storage requirements
are going to continue to grow and I think at tremendous rates. I think
as we start storing video on disk drives in a real time fashion, that
the storage requirements are going to really jump. The big thing that's
going to cause us some problems is the bandwidth capability for transferring
data around the world. I think that's a real tough problem to solve.
I think that the data storage requirements will advance at least as
fast as the technology advances.
Tom, I'm with you. I don't know whether 30%, 40% or 50%, but it seems
like every couple of years we double the recording density. Product
life cycles are getting shorter and shorter. I've convinced that some
day, the day we announce the product we will announce its end of life
the same day (laughter) and ask our customer for their final order.
But I think that technology will continue to double every couple of
years. I don't see any big changes in technology. I think that magneto
resistive reading will be the wave of the future. It will be the way
we get to an order of magnitude more storage density than we have right
now. I think that alternate substrates, alternate to aluminum will become
standard. As you might know Seagate has a relationship with Corning
and we are working on Ceramic disks and that's the way we are going.
There may alternate substrates that perform like Ceramic. It won't be
very many years before all the disk drives will be alternate substrates
and magneto-resistive reading. I am sure.
I'm pretty excited about it. Everybody worries. Phil talks about prices
declining and nobody making any money. We're making money. As soon as
you learn that you have to sell it for more than you make it you can
make some money in this business. And I think it is really exciting
that the market is growing like it is and prices are coming down. That
makes it tougher for the marginal people to stay in business. I kinda
like that because I don't consider ourselves as being marginal.
Like I said I didn't prepare a speech, but that's all I was going to
cover. I think.
I was talking to Tom Gardner and Norm Hayes out front a little while
ago and we were talking about some old timers in the business, three
in the industry you never hear of. Classical engineers and really great
guys and one of them was Ray Herrera, some of you might remember Ray,
fantastic guy. I promoted Ray to senior engineer, which was the top
spot at IBM in San Jose. You know what he said to me when I told him
about it. He said, "hey fantastic, I'm the first Mexican senior
engineer IBM has. I never thought about it, but he really was. Rusty
Nagakura, remember Rusty, great little fella. He could hit a golf ball
350 yards. Rusty died a long long time ago. And the last guy, a great
philosopher, who could absolutely solve any problem in the world was
Yan Hou Tong (spelling). Brilliant guy, who moved to work with Xerox
in Dallas, many years ago. And since that time I lost track of him.
I know he retired. I wanted to mention these three people because no
one ever does and they were really classy people.
So I hope you all live 50 more years along with me and I'll let you
all go have your cocktails. Thanks very much.
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